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Martin Payne	Pictionary, I have lots of old stuff like the ashtray. To most people it would be garbage, to me fond memories. I have hundreds of old comics dating back to the early sixties, the Rover, Wizard, Hotspurs, Victor, Lion, and of course the Beano and Dandy. I have lots of old vinyl records, pictures and so on. Pictionary do you remember Tiny Ryan? (Gerry) he used to walk about with a camera slung around his neck; he used to take pictures of everyone he met. No one ever remembers, ever having seen the result of any of his picture taking. Well, would you believe, that I have one of his pictures, poor quality, I admit, but none the less a big Tiny Ryan original. How’s that for a scoop?

mary cuthbertson	I was relating all the messages re ASHTRAY to my brother Ronald Kane and he was really pleased to hear names of people he went to school with.He says a big HELLO to everyone who knows him.

pictionary	It's amazing the nostalgia: caused by a simple thing like an ashtray! I too most probably used ''The Ashtray''.Marty, have you an antiques shop?, or maybe on the smaller scale, a bric-a-brac,shop?!!!''Dirty Dick's'': Was it our parent's who put this repulsive name on the cafe?, or was there some truth in the name? Good, on'ya, Marty.

Martin Payne	Mary, so that’s where the stain in the centre of my ashtray came from,"shame on you". Earth Walker, I can remember well all the stunts we used to get up to in Dicks, and all the other places we used to frequent in those days. Seamus and Earth walker, Hugo Donnelly was a great character, the only way to describe him at that time was, “Mad”! Hugo graffiti seemed to be springing up everywhere; it was a bit like the famous, Kilroy was here.

Earth.Walker	Mary, I believe the ingredients were vinegar, and cigarette ash. Some people added salt but I am not sure that it added to the sublime fragrance. Of course we done other things like switching salt for sugar and visa versa. Twisting the top of either condiment to the very last thread and leaving it for someone to pour the complete contents over their meal or in their tea.

Tony Fitzpatrick	Just to follow up on Seamus Keenan's mention of Hugo Donnolly. Hugo in fact only died a couple of years ago having become a professor at a university in England.He did like a lot of us run a bit wild back in the 60's but settled down to be married and have a family. He was in school with me in the Abbey primary(he was one of Mc Dermot's Indominabiles mentioned in an earlier posting) and Secondary and was really a very intelligent guy.

Mary Cuthbertson	I am afraid we used to make stink bombs in the ashtrays with a combination of vinegar and something else.If anyone remembers ,please write in.

Earth.Walker	Seamus, Yes there were some great memories from that time. Indeed we used to do some interesting stunts as I am sure the supplier of the ashtray photo can well remember.

Seamus Keenan	Hi Earthwalker, The ashtray was great, brought back many memmories of sitting in benny's, Hugo, was it Donnelly fron Canal St, died tragically nearly 30 years ago, a great character.

	Thanks for the photos of Hilltown. Enjoyed viewing them. Can anyone tell me about the O'Neill shop/cafe in Mill street and the residents Ellen (Nellie) and her brother Harry in early to mid 1900's. Also Mick and Catherine Flanagan's fruit veg and shoe shops. Would like the streets and numbers if pos. Love the Journal. Brede.

Jenny	Ed, once again you have me wishing I was home for the drama festival. Thanks for giving us your opinion on the plays; I always look forward to reading them. Perhaps next year I'll be able to sit down and discuss some of the shows with you over a jar or two.

kathleen mcdonnell	dear editor, it was great to see a windmill rd old photo of myself holding the hand of my son colum. my name was burns no relation to johnny byrne. im now in canada for the last 35 yrs, those were happy days, love this website

Rebelrouser	Hi Ed, it was great to see your photograph of the group of young parents 40 years ago on a walk with their children on the Windmill Road. Talk about nostalgia. I clearly remember Rita and Terry's wedding all those years ago as we in River St, Chapel St,Boat St, Quay St, O'Neil ave. etc. were all very good neighbours. I remember Christina (Rita's younger sister very well and the Harts and Mc Donald family. I also remember having a drink with Rita and Tery when my sister Irene and me were over in Newry when my mum was'nt well. Happy days eh?

Santanta	Good luck with the project. Also try to imagine that the "warts" might be interesting in their own right. If you have shots of peoples' feet for example they are probably already of interest to students of fashion who would like to see the shoes being worn in Newry in the 70's, how laces were tied etc. The warts are known as "ground shots" everyone has them but even the detail of what is on the ground can be interesting to historians. You might have a manhole cover with a manufacturer's name. There will be a time when that will be of interest.

Martin Payne	Santanta. Thank you for the information, which is exactly what I am looking for. You guy’s are amazing, yourself and Jonny that is, I should be able to make a start on my project now. Once again, my thanks to both of you.

Santanta	Martin, When I said to have it burned to a DVD I meant to have it ALL put on a DVD as a complete record of every frame on the original. Include EVERY frame even double exposures and shaky shots...EVERYTHING...because when it is transferred in its entireity it is safe for another generation and nothing is lost. The DVD you ask for should be ideally uncompressed PAL at 25fps if possible. A true replica of the original will have no extra dvd menus, captions or any intrusion on the original. It should play on a screen just as the original played on a projector. Of course because you now have it stored digitally you can copy it as many times as you like and also fiddle with each copy 'till your heart's content. That includes grabbing individual frames. It is amazing what you spot when you have a single frame...even of an out of focus shot or a shaky shot. You can even stabilise shaky shots and make a new steady version....but always keep your complete copy pristine and secure for the future.

Martin Payne	Jonny, thanks a lot for your good advice, it’s very much appreciated.

jonny	Martin, If you were supplied with a DVD (with warts) you can convert a DVD back to MPEG for further editing (videohelp.com), and I am sure the Pros could supply you with an MPEG if you asked. I have done this with Old Cine stuff which I received on VHS and digitised to MPEG to edit. All the Best, j

Martin Payne	Santanta. Thank you for your advice about the old cine film. What I am after is not the image burned on to a dvd, because that way, mixed in with your show you get all the bad bits, like the usual shots of peoples feet, images that are to dark and the bane of all home movies the camera shake. What I would like would be a dvd of all the cine film’s files, that way I hope to be able to edit out all the warts.

Santanta	Marty Payne, Your home movies are a valuable asset. Please DO preserve them by having them transferred to DVD. HOWEVER be extra careful. The internet is full of people offering such a service. Most of them are simply sharks. If they don't lose or damage your film they will simply project it on a white wall and video it with a video camera. That does not work well for various technical reasons. I recently got some very old delicate stuff done in London. The process is known as "Telecine" (Google it) and TodAO in North London are true professionals. They are not expensive ...and no I have no connection with them.

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