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Pictionary	Thanx Olwen. In Welsh legend Olwen was a beautiful maiden, the lover of Culhwch and the daughter of the giant Yspaddaden. Her father insisted that Culhwch complete several seemingly impossible tasks before he would allow them to marry, and Cullwch was successful with all of them. Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Santanta	Olwen is not an odd name and has a lovely ring to it. Ignore those Londoners. By teaming up with McLeod you will have given the Londoners a real pronounciation problem. HOWEVER does anyone remember a girl/woman around Newry with the name Dorinda (usualy pronounced Drinda)?

barbara	Hi I live in donaghadee, my grandfathers brother william george strain moved to bessbrook in the 30's 40's he apparently lived in fountain street. would anyone know any of the family if there is any left. thanks

Olwen McLeod	Pictionary Thank you, I am aware of the legend but perhaps you would like to share it with the other Journallers who may like to know. I have encountered people from all over the world who had no problems with the pronunciation of Olwen or it’s spelling that is except Londoners. For some reason this name is alien to them. The list is endless of both incorrect pronunication and mis-spellings. I was often referred to as “the girl with the funny/weird name” I used to long for a song to hit the charts which included Olwen in the lyrics but it never happened. Santanta My understanding of the meaning of wadi is thus: A dried up river valley except after rain. The evidence of wadi is rapid because of the quickness and absorption of the water into the ground. I leave it to your imagination to work out why the nick name was given (Mrs Santanta has probabely enlightened you) but it was in no way malicious or offensive. Just girlish fun between a bunch of very good friends whom have given me many happy unforgettable memories.

Peggy	My grandfather was born in Newry in 1872; it was very important to me to see where he lived. I've been to Newry 2x in 4 yrs. My intention was not to sight-see, but to see everyday life there, and meet everyday people, like me. Everyone was very helpful to me; I found where my great grandfather had his barber shop. Thank you, Newry,for being so kind to me.

pictionary	Olwen is a beautiful Welsh name meaning ''White Footprint.'' There is a nice little Welsh legend about the name, Olwen. If you dont know the legend i will tell you next, time. Byeeee.

Santanta	Olwen, It seems like I probably "bumped into" you in the summer of 67 or 68 and not 62-65ish. Your departure to London explains why our paths did not subsequently cross.Any "Olwens" I met have had a Welsh connection, with sisters named Ceryth and Delyth. I now have a home in London. Isn't life strange! BTW if you check on the description of a "wadi" you will see that it has steep sides and a flat bottom but I have no idea why that would apply to any human!

Olwen McLeod	Santanta thank you again. I left Newry to live in London September 1967 so I would guess the year in question would have been around about 1966/67 although I was at home in River Street for a few weeks in the summer of 1968. I am also wondering if I know Mrs Santanta. You are correct I was the only Olwen in Newry and although I have met individuals who are familiar with the name I have only ever encountered one other with this name.

Santanta	I was thinking of Gerry Quinn a class mate in the Abbey at around 1963,4,5 when I am talking about but obviously I am wrong. I have wracked my brain to try and recall the lads but to no avail. Neither can I recall the other girls. The best I can recall is a group of girls sitting on a window ledge of a house on the left hand side of River St near the town end. I guess the name "Olwen" fixed you in my memory because it was not common around Newry. It is common elsewhere but at that time you were the first one I had met. I was not close to Wadi but later on was very friendly with one of her school friends. She is still Mrs Santanta and has confirmed my understanding of why Wadi is so called!

Olwen McLeod	Santanta Thank you for sharing your memories, it was nostalgically sweet but unfortunately I cannot recall “Gerry”. Perhaps his surname or where he lived might nudge my memory. Also if we were not acquainted how do you know about Wadi? Ed. I shall email you with an explanation.

Santanta	Ed, Your photo on the home page is much appreciated. That's us all set up now for another forty years!

Santanta	Olwen/Rebelrouser, No you shouldn't know me. My impression is just that. A fleeting memory from a single meeting. It happened like this; One lovely summer day I was conscripted by one of my mates to join a group of lads who would meander along towards River St in the hope of accidentally "bumping into" a bunch of girls, one of whom I believe he fancied. A group of meandering youths is always easier than marching along on you own and revealing obvious intention. We got as far as River St and "bumped into" a bunch of girls one of whom was called Olwen (Dean? Deane? Dien?). It became a kind of obvious Olwen was the object of my mate's attention and I can't remember how it turned out for him. I can't remember who it was but have a vague idea it might have been "Gerry". I don't know if anything subsequently developed and I never became acquainted with "Olwen"....a brief encounter...but it is an impression which has lasted nearly 50 yrs.

Olwen McLeod	Santanta Should I know you?

Rebelrouser	Hi Santanta, I'm Olwens "Big Brother" and we lived in River street. Jolt the aul memory?

Santanta	Olwen, So my old memory is not gone after all. I know what but do you know why? I also recall a young woman called Olwen (but not McLeod) who did great justice to the mini skirt! An impression that lasts nearly 50 yrs....now that is an impression!

Ed	I would!

Olwen McLeod	You are correct Santana there is indeed a connection - do you know what it is or would you like me to tell you?

Santanta	I remember Leon Scott as a very pretty extremely talented singer and am delighted to hear about her success and increasing recognition...even better that she is with my dear school friend Liam. Nice to hear also about Harry J and Patricia...but here is my question...is there a connection between Patricia and a dried up river bed or is my old memory playing tricks?

Patricia McGuigan	Many thanks for posting the pics of the demolishing of Sinclair St, a very sad day. My grandparents reared 9 children in this street, at no 13. My Granny lived there until her death in 1979.

Editor	Many thanks to those who persisted with Journal through the recent speed problem! Solved now.

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